Thursday, March 22, 2007

Chapters 15 - 16

From reading about Mrs. O'Connell actions it is evident to see that she is wholly and solely impressed by authority. She has no mind of her own, for she is at the mercy of two oppressive forces: the English and the Church. Find evidence to support this view.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is evident that Mrs. O'Connell only thinks about herself. She does not care about other people. For example, she does not care about people that are dieing in bed. She also keeps a watchful eye on the telegram boys because she knows how long it takes to deliver the telegrams even by foot, the telegram boys don't have to stop in pubs or even home for a cup of tea when they are working. Mrs. O'Connell will always tell the telegram boys that their job is about delivering telegrams and nothing else. They are not suppossed to do any kind of favor for the people who they deliver telegrams for, because she knows everything about the people in Limerick.

Judith said...

Maria has described how mean Mrs. O'Connell was but cananyone find evidence of how she is influenced by the oppressive forces of the English and the Church, and why did I say that she has no mind of her own?

Anonymous said...

I think Mrs.O'Connell is influenced by the oppressive forcesof the english because of what they did to them for eight-hundred years.There was great famine during those years.

Judith said...

Read again Maria, I think if you read a bit more carfully you will see what I am talking about.
Where is everyone else????

Anonymous said...

I don't know

Unknown said...

When the English man acused Frank to Mrs. O'connell she fired him without listening to any excuses or reason, even thoug he was doing a good job before, just because she got a complain from this Englishman. Then when Angela gets the letter from the Priest she feels force to take Frank back and She does it. I think the reason what the teacher said that she does not have mind of her ouw it is true; when you take a decision and you Know you are right you stand for it and don't change because somebody tell you another point of view. She didn't stand for the her first resolution about not having Frank anymore at the Post office. We can see later the way she thinks about Frank that He is smart and very intelligent. She tries to persue him to take the test as a Post man.

Unknown said...

We can see too, how the church can change your point of view back in thouse days. They were very influence in very aspects. Mrs. O'Connell kinds of going witn the wind. Whoever tell her something she would go fot it.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. O'Connell worked for the post office, and the post office was guided by the English and the Church. There were telegrams for the houses of priests/ministers, nuns and for maids that they had, and there were also telegrams that came from the English government such as money orders. There was a great influence in the post office by the English government, and the Church. For example, Frank got the job as telegram boy because the priest Dr. Cowpar wrote a note for Frank worked in the post office. When Frank met with Mr. Harrington an Englishman, Frank almost lost his job because he was drinking instead of working. Frank was drunk. His mother was begging to the post office to take Frank back, and they say no, then Mrs. O'Connell received a letter from the parish priest and it said “take the boy back”, and Frank could keep his job in the post office.

roman said...

Mrs.O'Connel,who manage telegram boys,telled them that they have to "delivery telegrams amd nothing else." Although, Frank McCourt came in to Mr.Harrington, Englishman's house, whose Irish wife just died from tuberculosis. After that, Mr.Harrington started to blame all Irish in Frank's face as a cause of his wife's death. He forsed him to drink alcohol and eat. Actually he abused Frank. After that Mrs. O'Connel faired Frank and hi suppos to never get this job again. It was Mrs. O'COonnel OWN MINE. However, she got some letter from the parish prist, where he recomended to her "take the boy back." In an instant, she remined "what the Englist did to us for eight hundred years that man had no right to complain over the little ham and sherry." SO, WHERE IS HER OWN MINE, WHICH SHE HAD AT TIME, WHEN SOMBODY JUST WAS FAIRED???

Unknown said...

Mrs. O'Connell has no mind on her own because she is not able to make decision based what she thinks is right, if somebody says she has to fire a worker because he vomited or got drunk on duties, she did fire the poor worker without listening reasons. And the same when the priest sent her a letter to give the job back to Frank and she did it! not because she forgives Frank and want to give him a second chance, because the priest so.

Anonymous said...

the first evidence was when mrs. o'conell fired frank for no reason only because somebody else told her to do it and also because frank was not doing his job properly.she did it without letting him say any word.also when the priest sent to mrs. o'connell a letter telling her to rehire frank back to work. and after that mrs. o'connell tried to help frank encouraging to take the test as a postman. Liliana j.

Anonymous said...

Pierre to my point of view I think Mrs.O'Connel was doing her job. Because it is not eassy to find job in that position in the first place;Therefore, she'll what ever she's asked to. She told the boys to do what the job is require. That's to go delivery the telegram and nothing else.

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Major Themes

  • The Historical Antagonism between Ireland and England
  • The Value of Education
  • Drinking in Irish Culture
  • Hunger and Food