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Monday, March 19, 2007
Chapters 11 - 14
Through these chapters it is clear that Frank is becoming a man. Now that his father has basically left them, he is "the man of the house." However, Mr. Halloran does not want Frank to grow up so fast and fall into "the messenger boy trap." What does this mean? What does this say about the social problems and class structure of Irish society at that time? What other examples in the book can you find of this class system?
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The Republic and Northern Ireland
Limerick Area
Major Themes
- The Historical Antagonism between Ireland and England
- The Value of Education
- Drinking in Irish Culture
- Hunger and Food
6 comments:
I could understand that Mr. Halloran doesn't want Frank to work at the age of fourteen like every body else because He saw that Frank has the potencial to do better than a postman. Frank was inclinated to work and all teens at the age of 14 were supouse to strar woking. He was very smart. The same necesity that force all his friends to go to England and produce money to help their poor families in Irleand induce him to work too. I think only rich people went to secundary school back on thouse days. Instead of helping someone brilliant and brigth as Frank they closed the door on him. I was mad when I read about Priest on this cases denaying help. The fact that he was very poor should commove their hearts and try to make it better but they didn't. He descrives very detailed list about the rich and the poor and the poorest saying they were located by lanes and diferent streets the ones who will go to colleges and universities, run the goverment, world, (prosperity) and there were the postmen, boys going to England and women as maids or going to England too.
I think Mr.Halloran did not want Frank to grow up fast because Frank thought that he was the man of the house and he had to take care of his family, and has the responsabilities of his father. Mr.Halloran advice him that he has to continue with his education because he was very smart and he can be something better than the messenger boy. That is why he told Angela that Frank has to go to Secondary school. ("Christian Brothers,") he advice Frank to go to America because in this country he can have better oppotunities than in Limerik because boys like Frank should not waste their talents.
pierre I think that Mr.Halloran didn't want Frank to grow up so fast and fall into a messenger boy trap because he care about him. He knows that Frank is smart and interligent.He also know that Frank would do anything for his family.He doesn't want Frank to wast his gift from god.Eventhaugh Frank is his mother's right hand, example like taking care of his family. Mr.Halloran think that if he contineu school he will have more opportunity to have a better life for him ,and his family.
Rabia sadia. I thing Mr.Halloan thougth Frank is smart boy thats way he told his mother that she should send him to secondry school for more eduction.Frank could get good job after the eduction.
I thing it was realy bad when they closed the door on him. it seemed only rich pepole couid get to the secundary school.Even thougth Frank was smart kid.He hadto work and spport his family just like his friends .Mr Haalloan advice him to go to America becauce he can have more oppotumities than Limerik.
In thise chapter, as at almost everyone before, was show Irish society at 30s years last century. Talanted boy Frank McCourt was recomended by his teacher Mr.O'Halioran to attended secondary scool.However what did Franc and his mother get when they came there? "Superior Brother Murray... come to the door,looks to my mother and me and says,WHAT?" ONLY ONE FIRST SMART WORD FOR INTERVIEW.WHAT? Then he told them that they do not have room for Frank and "close the door ih our face" I think it happend because Frank's family was not "enough rich" for attend hin secondary shool.Frank wriets: "Mr.O'Halloran tells the class a diegraee that boys like McCourt...have to hew wood and drow water was disquasted by this free and independent Ireland. We are throwing our talented children on the dunghear.
I personally think Mr.Halloran wants his pupils to be someone when they grow up, especially Frank who according to the master has the potential to do so. Frank is really smart and Mr.Halloran sees that, so I think that he means that instead of Frank dreaming about getting a job like a "real man", he should concentrate in school.
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